One feature I wanted to include in the game but might have to shelve was some level of 'pimping ones ride'. It wasn't overly ambitious, just the ability to attach decals earned via achievements or campaign completion to various helicopter parts. Then Apache Air Assault came out on consoles and suddenly it seemed like an old idea. This kind of maintenance tent could be employed to manage upgrades or repairs if we go down that route.
Some in-game shots of these areas...
When trying to plan a sortie, there's always going to be some joker wanting to gate-crash the party tent.
Thanks for that.
No smoking in the tent please sir.
Painting some teeth on my future Apache seems a nice extra :)
ReplyDeleteYes, I'd really like to do that if possible at some future point.
ReplyDeleteCan I have the uk HIDAS on mine please.
ReplyDeleteComing along nicely Richard, especially like the rain effect.
Great ideas, Flex! It gives the briefing totaly new perspective. Love it! Also those "rewards" would be great. I dont know, if You are going to put pilots bodies in the cockpit, but maybe even their helmets can get some extra paintings. :-) It would be great to watch briefing and see the starting apaches in the background. Please...give this apache sim clearance to land on my hardrive soon. :-)
ReplyDeleteOh...one more thing. Following Origins "sims" path is one of the best ideas, Ive seen in the last ten years of simulation. I know these years werent somehow rich in simulations, but still. I loved Strike Commander or Wings of Glory, even Gunship 2000. I dont know if You have it, but some time ago, they released Typhoon or Eurofighter Typhoon...I dont know. Everybody were expecting follower of amazing EF2000 from DID, but it was way too arcadish etc...BUT...the menus were made in very similar spirit. There was the bar, where pilots were talking and drinking, briefing room with officers showing something on the maps...it was very live.
ReplyDeleteEF2000 was brilliant. Super efficient code to cram so much into a 3/486 PC.
ReplyDeleteNever really got the follow-up with the hanging around in bars, from a gaming perspective not letting players do anything except wait is a bit of a major no no.
voodo 3dfx for ef2000 patch -kicking ass ....Amazing reflection of clouds and sun in the windows of houses.
ReplyDeleteWow, this game Now it looks great, and the cockpit .... beating the competition by 10 years.Incredible dynamic campaign, and unforgettable bombing.I remember the first review in a newspaper EF2000, it was a jaw-dropping ;)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Pj9CpmTZUqg
I must admit, I still play sometimes, when I have nostalgic mood. Still very good sim. Here are few pic from that Eurofighter Typhoon. http://www.gamershell.com/pc/eurofighter_typhoon/screenshots.html?id=66345
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ReplyDeleteI finally understood the way Ch is going. I suggest to look for someone who is writing a good story for CH then I bet there are some amateur writers out there which could take this part.
Whole different thng but I got bit of reduced MassEffect in my mind. Wing Commander was my first game on the PC and the first time I used a Joystick. Strike Commander was also awesome. Anyone of you know "TheHexagon Kartell"? Nice Storybased Helicopter (almost) Smulation with a Story line. Liked that one.
Fitting a story around a dynamic campaign would be quite challenging, infact I don't think it's been done before?
ReplyDeleteWe talked about including a deck of bad guy cards and some sort of quests that would provide challenges other than blowing stuff up.
Decals should be doable. Maybe we can an Overlay=2?
Cheers
I was thinking adding a second overlay, a forced zbuffer patch.
ReplyDeleteLB2 mixed in scripted missions which were triggered by campaign conditions (or just random chance). That's what I'm doing but also ambient missions such as the deck of cards.
The We Care character as well as a series of special operations will be done before the campaign is finished since they use pre-set data that is assembled by the mission genny.
Red Dead Redemption is a masterful example of mixing sandbox and storyline, oddly it's a game that rated much higher by developers than gamers.
Everyone expects voice overs for dialogue today which is hard to produce. Two characters I have people for (if still willing).
IMHO there is no sense wasting time and devote a lot of work for story, voices ,because most people expect just a simulator, and dynamic campaign and nothing more to happiness does not need;) People did not like story and film career in the TOCA series (car simulator) becose desire good realistic car simulator - not movie.
ReplyDeleteThe same was the case TDU2-hopeless unnecessary story.
I'm not talking about a running story arc. Just a couple of set-pieces not that much different to the intro flight / tutorial. What I learned is that dynamic is good, but occasionally something different without warning can off-foot a player, keeps you on your toes.
ReplyDeleteTDU2 story was dreadful. Some people wrote very unflattering things about the characterisation (some of which I found myself laughing at with the truthfulness, too rude to repeat).
I wrote a giant text which took about a hour and now it´s gone but I won´t give up and sum it up a little and try it again!
ReplyDeleteI like games driven by a good story. There are many good examples across the genres. The good ol Wing Commander would have been totally boring with just go out and shoot something, lvl 2 go out and shoot something harder. The Story itself wasn´t that mind blowing as far as I can remember. For me the key in this game was the abillity to get rewarded by someone. I don´t like it too much to get awarded by your points or kills itself. For me the most important things were those little cutscenes before or after the flight where you get some feedback from a „person“. Thats psychological much more effective and keeps you motivated. Theres no need for high tech render sequences just something that can fullfil this role.
It´s just good to have some characters on your side that make you feel you´re not alone. CH helo with with it´s ability to walk around and whole camp idea is pretty much a perfect base for such a „motivation mechanic“
I guess thats almost the way you are trying to go for CH but I just wasn´t sure at the moment how it would work.The COIN based campaign would be perfect for those little story elements. Just as the front line campaign.
There also many games that ruined the game (for me) with it´s idea of getting a „story“ into something where it doesn´t fit. DirT2 bugged me with it´s camera viewpoint rides just to get through the menus. Or all skateboard games with theire „yo dude whats up? can you do this and that for me“
I´ts pretty difficult to get it right. DCS for example is pretty dry and the only content is provided by my real squad mates but they do it like no AI can do. I tried to play a campaign in there but I didn´t liked it. Multiplayer was the only useful fun I could get out of it besides solo „manage the aircraft“ flights. No discussion, that is what DCS is made for and it´s enough in this case. CH won´t be a study sim as far as I understood it. So I thought that some good story elements could fit well in there.
Nough said,
bring it on! :D
I´m sure TC will find the right decision, enough experience and skill there. Hopefully :D
(Yes I got too much tme my holidays started today)
P.S.: I don´t like those collectible rewards like Gunner! :collect 10 insurgent heads with your cannon or similar.
There's a RL example of a crew applying 'shark teeth' to a Hellfire after destroying a boat. Is like squad trophies.
ReplyDeleteShoot down five aircraft, claim the title "Ace". Accolades have been around since WWI :) Must be a pilot thing.
CH is actually a study sim. Study means research and code specific to the aircraft, unique avionics and flight model. It's about as study as you can get. There's some base classes that can be re-used for the CH47 but a lot will be coded specially for it.
The trick is to make sure you can pick this up and play with minimal control inputs but also have the depth that will teach you new skills. AND a campaign that is different every time.
We're getting there.
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ReplyDeleteI think I´m just getting more and more excited.
Well, if it comes to voice overs, it's probably about one actor you can forget :/
ReplyDeletehttp://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-13106628
Oh dear. Mr Cage isn't having a very good time atm :/
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